Tuesday 5 December 2017

Unless you are made to go to clubs or dancers are kidnapped and made to perform, what's the problem?

Unless you are made to go to clubs or dancers are kidnapped and made to perform, what's the problem?

Disclosure - I went to the odd strip club and "Ladies night" event in my early 20s.

In Vancouver you could go to bars where there was strippers after 3 pm. Women could make some money (because strippers were women), patrons could spend some money. There was no touching, the entertainment was like a TV (watch if you want to) the music was usually ok. The worse was heckling and if I was with a group it would speak up against that behaviour . I could observe other group; men seemed to be treating it as a background.

Women on the other hand. I went to a couple ladies nights and a lot of the talent was poor (dancers that couldn't keep a beat!?!) and the women were even grabbier and embarrassing to be around. No wonder women are against strip clubs is that's what they act like when they attend an event.

The idea of consent and equality is hard to work towards when one part of society is considered incapable of making reasoned choices like choosing stripping commercial dancing. For the event tagged - I do find the "private sessions" problematic but as long as there's a clear payment structure and no cohersion. While I find the women flogging extra drinks to be enforcing gender norms - again, hopefully she is well paid.

Recipients should be aware of how the donations are raised though.
http://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4432561

3 comments:

  1. I'm more or less ambivalent about the dancing in principle, but in practice it's not always on the up-and-up. I've known a few girls who used stripping to make some extra money, and they universally say that they are under pressure to do more than they're willing to do, by both the patrons and the venue. Not all venues are equal, either.

    I live in Medicine Hat now, and there are no strip clubs by bylaw here in the city. There is one in the small town adjacent to the city (redcliff), but I've never stepped foot inside. It sounds kinda shady.

    The thing is, i agree with Cass. A fundraiser event like this in a nice venue is likely to be a situation where the dancers choose to be there, are paid respectably well, and are treated with some level of professionalism. On the other hand, the private stuff sounds shady as heck. Meanwhile, any ladies-night I witnessed was mayhem. The women (some of them, even a few who you'd never expect to behave that way) were monsters ... If that is what they think all strip clubs are like, then there's no wonder they're protesting.

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  2. Yes but the problematic practices are because the workers are not properly protected by management and society thinks they deserve it. Just like on the job death and occupational illness was considered fair exchange for employment.

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