Have always considered the Catholic school system a waste of resources.
Where I grew up (BC) we had 1 school system. Any religious stuff was Sunday school or private. In Alberta there's at minimum twice the cost in terms of buildings and administrative costs plus the catholic school board get public and church money. This is coming a head because they are fighting against LGBT clubs and health education includes information about reproduction and sexualizing. How can teachers (and their administrators) be unaware of the difference between education and training?
To top it off, the catholic aka separate school system has more legal administrative costs in spite of having religious requirements for teachers and students.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/atg/2017/04/12/i-find-no-problems-when-i-investigate-myself-too/
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and ... the publicly funded institution can discriminate their hiring. I think no publicly funded group should be allowed to discriminate.
ReplyDeleteor... the option would be that they ONLY take Catholic students, and those students (and teachers) should show up regularly to church. They don't show up, well you're out of the system.
As an ex teacher I know many in both systems, and i dont' know of any catholic board teacher who goes to church regularly and same for the kids.
I think that's why there's so many suits. Parents don't agree with the core tenets the school system is trying to inflict.
ReplyDeleteIn Alberta they only take up to 10% non-catholic students who have to be approved. The Separate school board should be defunded.
Canada wide, there should be one, public, publicly funded, secular, English, school system.... If minority, special interest groups wish to fund their own private schools, out of their own pockets, after taxes, they must maintain or exceed established educational standards.
ReplyDeleteClinton Hammond I'm okay with a French board, or a First Nation board as well ... but religion. That's where I don't think our public systems should go.
ReplyDeleteI'm not ok with more than one board. It's a waste of money and resources to have more.
ReplyDeleteFirst Nations should be under a common board - otherwise EVERY ethnicity will demand their own too. I agree that the separate board should be amalgamated into the common public board. A French board can easily be part of an English board too, just with its own mandate. There are common tenets in education that shouldn't change based on the language spoken.
ReplyDeleteMy daughter's in our Catholic school. We're all "technically" Catholic, but non-practicing, and basically only Catholic as far as once being baptised goes. The advantage we found in having religion taught in grade school is that it helped our daughter decide that Catholicism isn't for her. She isn't doing confirmation, and she's found her spirituality with our Native heritage at this point. Without that exposure, she may not have had the opportunity to decide she doesn't agree with it. So it's not all bad.
But two publicly funded boards is wasteful, in so many ways, and should be seriously re-evaluated.
There's nobody who cannot be encompassed by a Public Education board, unless they are adherants to, expecting to recieve, special dispensation for personal beliefs.
ReplyDeletePersonal beliefs should never be grounds for special dispensation.
I formerly worked for an archdiocese in the U.S. and learned that in Canada, Catholic schools can receive taxpayer support. The Catholic school organizers in the U.S. envied their Canadian counterparts over this support. I have believed that in the U.S., we particularly need strict separation of church and government, because religion has been weaponized as a tool of Cold War indoctrination, and racial segregation.
ReplyDeleteAll countries need strict separation between "church" and "state" because the latter can be a tool for the rational, reasonable, empathetic working of a progressive society.
ReplyDeleteThe former absolutely cannot be... It is based on ideals and philosophy that is in direct opposition to those concepts.
States, just like any institution, have a mixed, and for that matter mostly bad record at reasonable and empathic workings. A state certainly can be organized well, but don't take that for granted. States without any openly public religion include Stalin's and Pol Pot's horrors. States with strong emphasis on religion include Hitler's and Saddam Hussein's. I wouldn't say religion or no religion in the social model is the difference, though strict non-establishment of religion by government certainly is essential.
ReplyDeleteStalin and Pol Pot were both openly revered as divine beings.... Their states were far from "without religion".
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